Categories: Heaven




Bro Dhinakaran, can we talk something about the ministries on this earth, you know, various ministries that are going on on this earth and heaven is watching what’s happening? How does heaven or God recognize the ministries that are going on on this earth?


If you read First Corinthians chapter 12:28 onwards, it mentions various ministries that God in His great mercy has instituted in the church so that it may prosper.


1 CoR 12:28-30 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?


So every ministry in this world is God-given. So there is no competition. Everybody is important.


And once I was fasting and praying, my main aim was to get more anointing and more power. And I was fascinated by the tremendous success of a particular ministry.


And I felt I should also go that way. So I was very sincerely praying, “Lord, this particular servant of God is attracting so many, many, many thousands of people to Christ at one stroke. I must have the same anointing.”


The Lord smiled and I was in the spirit that’s the most important thing. Every time the Lord would love to take you to heavens as exactly as He is filled with the Holy Spirit according to Acts 10:38, He fills you also with the same spirit in that measure.


Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with Him.


So it was in the Spirit as St. John says in Revelation 1:10.


Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet.


And He took me to a particular place in heaven. You must always remember that heaven is a vast place. It is a continent by itself, so great and with many different, different, different, different places, and it is never comprehensible.


And He took me to a particular place and I saw something like a tablet. Big tablets towering to the skies. We are already in the skies in heaven but you see these tablets reaching to the skies. I saw one then another and another and another and the Lord Jesus said, “Read what is written in every tablet.”


And I was amazed. In one tablet it is written “Salvation.” That means people who preach only about salvation. Then “Salvation and Baptism.” Some are specialists in these two and some “Salvation” and then “Baptism” and then the “Holy Spirit.” Likewise, everything was different, different, different, different.


And one thing fascinated me that is when I looked at the tablet, on the top of which it was written “Salvation,” I found the name of the world-renowned evangelist, Dr. Billy Graham topping the list and innumerable names came after him, but his name topped the whole list,


I have heard him twice in India 1956, 1977. So I know who he is, and he is acclaimed as the person who has given the Gospel to the most number of people in the history of mankind.


And then finally, I came to a place where I saw a tablet and at the top, it was written “Love and Compassion” for ministries which are specialized in love and compassion.


Lo and behold, I saw my own name topping the list. And I was really taken aback because there are only six names. And of course, I couldn’t read the other names. I could read only my name.


And the Lord Jesus said, “So I have given you a very precious calling, which I have not given to many people. So you should be grateful and you follow the calling which I had given, I bless you abundantly and right as you obey My calling and do what I have commanded you to do, you will also win thousands and thousands of souls.”


Thank God it has happened. So the point I’m making is every ministry is precious.


When a rocket goes up to the moon, it generates a lot of heat and power. So likewise, when God translates you to another continent or another place or another world, He has to pump something extra into your soul, in your spirit, an enormous amount of the Holy Spirit and that lifts you.


At that time of being snatched or raptured away to heaven or hell, I don’t feel anything physically. But after the whole experience is over, I feel worn out. That’s why if you read the experience of Daniel, he always says he was sick after seeing a vision.


Daniel 8:27 And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward, I rose up and did the king’s business, and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.


Daniel 10:8 Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength.


Daniel 10:16 And, behold, one like the similitude of the sons of men touched my lips: then I opened my mouth, and spake, and said unto him that stood before me, O my lord, by the vision my sorrows are turned upon me, and I have retained no strength.


The most amazing thing that impressed me is the feeling of that soul once it leaves the body. Immediately when you leave, you still feel that you are in the body. As I have told you again and again according to Matthew 17:1-5 when the Lord Jesus Christ was on the Mount of Transfiguration and the spirit of Moses came and Elijah himself came in flesh and blood, both could be recognized as different personalities and could be recognized as Elijah and Moses by an ignorant fisherman like Peter. So this is very important. When the soul leaves the body, that man feels or the woman feels that they are still in their bodies because they could see their bodies.


The second thing is you are the exact image of your physical body. Your appearance in the physical body is retained. And so, when you see others in that realm, you are able to recognize them and say, “Oh, this is so-and-so.” That is the most important.


So, when a person dies and his soul comes out, it’s a strange feeling for the soul. It still feels that he or she is still in the body. So when they look at the dead body, they are unable to believe what has happened to them.


And the Lord has graciously shown a few cases. For example, once a very world-renowned person was shot dead several years ago. That time I was praying. And the Lord showed me what happened to that person. When that person was shot dead that person could not recognize that his soul has left the body. And that person looked around and saw the body lying down in the pool of blood. For some time that soul looked at the body, Then suddenly without even thinking, he said, “Oh, how much blood I have shed, how much blood I have shed.” And he was lifted up from that place.


The same thing I saw, in the case of a similar person, that person was raised up in real royalty. And so when something happened and the soul has to leave the body, when that person’s soul came out when he looked at his own body, shattered to pieces, he couldn’t understand what has happened.


And he said, “What is all this nonsense? Hey, what is this?” He couldn’t understand it. Then at the same way, he was whisked off, taken away.


At the same time, once I was standing next to the throne of Christ, and I saw, suddenly the Lord Jesus coming down from His throne and walking up and I saw the soul of a very ordinary woman coming up. As I said, from the appearance, you could recognize what kind of person he or she would have been in the world. And as she came, she was looking here and there and couldn’t understand anything. The glorious presence of Christ. and the glorious things in heaven baffled her.


And the Lord presented Himself before her. She looked at Him, then she realized it was Jesus. Then she couldn’t control her emotions. And she said, “Thank You, Lord. And finally, I have come to You. My husband broke my hands, broke my legs, bruised my body and I was mangled several times.


But I bore. I am glad I bore. It’s worth, it’s worth. Now, I have finally reached my destination. I am at Your feet. That’s enough for me.” And she fell at the feet of Christ but the Lord lifted her and embraced her. Oh, what a joy I could see on her face.


So, different people have different feelings when their soul departs from their bodies. It all depends on how they lived in this world. So it’s very important that we live a righteous life. Not an arrogant life.


What is the importance of the Word of God in heaven?


I was having this problem when I started to minister. I used to feel that I don’t have the real authority in my preaching. And I used to read Matthew 7:28 and 29, The Lord Jesus Christ spoke with authority.


Mat 7:28-29 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at His doctrine. For He taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.


So I was praying and praying, “Lord, give me authority when I preach, then only the people’s hearts would be touched.” And one day, while I was praying, the Lord took me to Heaven.


And He said, “Son, do you see the stand over there?”


I said, “Yes, Lord.”


“Do you see a book spread over it?”


I said, “Yes, Lord.”


“Go and see it.”


And that book was opened to the important place in that book, the chapter on which it is open right now.


“That chapter is the most important chapter. If you can assimilate the truth in that chapter and preach it with conviction, you will have power and authority.”


So I was very inquisitive to know what book it is. So I ran towards the book, lo and behold, it was the Bible. And I was very curious to know what chapter at which it has been kept open. And, lo and behold, it was no other chapter than Isaiah 53 which speaks about the Passion of the Lord.


Isa 53:1-12 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed? For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: He hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see Him, there is no beauty that we should desire Him. He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from Him; He was despised, and we esteemed Him not. Surely He hath borne

our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed, and He was afflicted, yet He opened not His mouth: He is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so He openeth not His mouth. He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare His generation? for He was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was He stricken. And He made His grave with the wicked, and with the rich in His death; because He had done no violence, neither was any deceit in His mouth. Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him; He hath put Him to grief: when thou shalt make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand. He shall see of the travail of His soul, and shall be satisfied: by His knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for He shall bear their iniquities. Therefore will I divide Him a portion with the great, and He shall divide the spoil with the strong; because He hath poured out His soul unto death: and He was numbered with the transgressors; and He bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.


So, every time I preach and make it a point to finally end up preaching on the cross of Christ. So I know the passion of our Lord, and the cross is the most important thing as your substitute and my substitute, how He suffered on the cross, that is the message I should preach.


So, whatever may be the topic given to me by the Holy Spirit, finally, I bring it to the cross, and it brings power and authority.


So, what I’m trying to say, the Word of God which is in your hand, and graciously given into my hand is the book recorded in heaven also and respected in heaven.


So once we respect the Word of God, the Lord is pleased and is pleased to do whatever you pray for after preaching that word.


We are amazed at the way you quote verses from the Bible. One man took down 121 verses in a single message that you spoke and he checked up and found that all the 121 verses were perfectly


right. What is the secret behind the Word of God being so much a part of your memory and your heart?


Now, every day, I read several chapters in the Bible. This I have been doing since the day of my salvation. So 48 years I read the Bible. And every time I read it, I read it with great joy and expectation. Number one.


Number two, DL Moody, the mighty preacher has said, Every time you read the Bible, have a pencil and mark important passages, and I did something more. When I read the Bible, I used to recollect where the same scripture is appearing in the Bible. So I used to mark and make my own cross-references. So if you have a look at my Bible, it is full of references on both sides of the Bible, and every corner you will find scribblings. And certainly, when I prepare a sermon, for one sermon, one full day of fasting, I fast and pray and the Holy Spirit comes and He tells me what I should preach and then He says, “Sit down and prepare it.” He helps me to find the various scriptures I should quote.


Finally the fourth thing, the amazing thing is the memory power He gives you. It’s not a natural ability, you must know that I’m a man who has failed twice in my degree examination, got out of it only for the third time. So it’s not the question of my memory, but the Holy Spirit. He has everything in His memory. And so He pumps into my heart, He pumps into my heart, what I should quote. So I make a record of the whole thing. Also, I spend several hours, at least seven or eight hours with a sermon on my knees. And behold when I come to the platform, when I come and stand there, I know what scripture I have to quote. And I know what truth I’m there to emphasize. And beyond that, the Holy Spirit really helps me. Sometimes He adds more scriptures and brings them to my mind.


And like any other man, sometimes my tongue slips. My mind is perfect. My thinking is perfect. And the Holy Spirit is perfect, but sometimes my tongue slip. For example, if you read Acts 19:6 it says, how Paul laid his hands upon the believers in Ephesus and how they received the Holy Spirit. And several times I have made this mistake. I mistakenly quote it as Ephesians 19:6 instead of Acts 19:6. So once my wife asked, that are only six chapters in Ephesians, where is that 19:6? I said, “Where is it?” She said, “You only said.” She said, “There’s not once you said it but so many times.”


All my messages are new and I never repeat them because every time I go to a new place, the people are new, their needs are new, their environment is new, everything is new. So the message also has to be new and to suit their conditions.


Anything heavenly that you have experienced during a time of reading the Bible, or preparing a message?


Well, sometimes when I read a portion of the Scripture, and then I don’t understand, then I prayed, “Lord, I don’t understand.” Then, sometimes later when I pray, or when I’m reading the scriptures, the Holy Spirit is pleased to come upon me. He will open my eyes, and He would make me see things as they happened in the Bible days. The same scene will be repeated before. And the Holy Spirit will explain that particular portion to you.


For example, very recently, that is yesterday, 8 July 2003. As I was fasting and praying for three days, on the third day of my fasting. 3:45 pm I began to pray after taking some rest, and the Holy Spirit came and lifted me to heaven. And I was standing before the throne of God. And I saw the Archangel Michael, and he spoke to me about certain intimate things, and how he has been guarding me and so on. It was wonderful.


Then came Gabriel. And Michael said, “It is he who brings you God’s message every time.” And I remembered Daniel 9:23 how he came with a message of God to Daniel. And I was thrilled.


Dan 9:23 At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.


Then Michael said, “Look at the throne of God.” Ezekiel 28:16 says, Lucifer was the covering Archangel over the throne of God, but that place is empty. Do you see that place is empty?”


So I looked up at me. There it was, I saw the mighty throne of God with a fire and the resemblance of the mighty person sitting there, the visage of the person.


But behind Him, the throne was empty. That covering Angel has fallen. So, it reminded me I should also never become proud at any moment. Because if you read First Timothy 3:6, it is because of his pride, the covering Archangel who was all the time holding in the presence of God, fell.


1 Tim 3:6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.


So I learned something that day when the mighty Michael said, “Look at that place, it’s empty.” I had a shock of my life. So it shows me that God loves a person who is humble. And the moment you and I lose our heads, we lose our future.


How do you remain humble when hundreds of thousands come to your meetings and you are acclaimed by many VIPs?


First of all, I don’t have that feeling that I am somebody, that I have achieved as a somebody. That feeling doesn’t come across. If you take the Karunya Institute of Technology, when I go there, I see the mighty buildings and computers, this and that and the 3000 students, but still, nothing moved me, because I know I had no part in building up that institution. I only prayed and prayed and prayed. And it is the hand of God which did the whole project. So that pride doesn’t come into my heart that I am something, that I have achieved something.


Secondly, every day without fail, when I read the Bible, the way in which our Precious Lord ministered in this world and the mighty prophets of God like Elijah and Elisha, and Moses shook the world, I still feel that I have not done even 1 millionth of what they have done.


So every day I cried, “Lord, give me more anointing, give me more power. I want to see the days of our Lord Jesus Christ in this world again.”


So my eyes are on the future, not in the past.


When you are in heaven, does God tell you things about some people who are living on earth?


Oh, many, many, many, many, many times, but I would love to tell you about two people who live in the city of Chennai even today.


One is about my great friend, Dr. Jeevanandam, a great preacher. We are great friends. So once he telephoned me and said that he’s going to such and such a place for God’s ministry, and he has so many problems. Not just one but so many problems around him and discouraging him all the time and he said you pray and everything shall be alright. I said I’ll surely pray and I prayed the next day. The Holy Spirit came and I was taken before the throne of the Lord Jesus Christ and the Lord Jesus Christ looked at me, then He looked at another direction and I saw Lucifer coming and nodding


before Him and He said, “Don’t give any trouble to Jeevanandam.” And he bowed and went away and Jesus looked at me and said, “Tell Jeevanandam.” So, when I came back, I called him and told him, “Brother, please go with joy and happiness, that thing is going to happen. This is what I saw in heaven.” And he came back and he told me, “Yes, it was so. Every problem just disappeared.”


Then I remembered Psalm 40:17, But I am poor and needy; yet the Lord thinketh upon me: Thou art my help and my deliverer; make no tarrying, O my God.


Another time. I have a good friend even today by the name, Jeebaraj. He lives in Chennai. And that time he lost his dear wife. And he was totally broken. He is a real man of God and he was such a blessing to all the servants of God. And I have gone to his home, I have eaten food in his home, and the amazing love he showed me that time, even today I remember. So that time with the real broken spirit, I prayed for him, “Lord, why should this happen to him? How to console him? Although the man is strong in his faith, still, that place is vacant.”


And then the Lord Jesus said, “Come,” and, lo and behold, I found myself among the billions and billions and billions of souls in heaven. Through His mighty power, He called the soul of his dear wife. You see in heaven they are oblivious of what is happening in this world. They are totally away from the hustle and bustle and worry or joy of this world. Once a soul goes to heaven, he/she crosses the sea of glass and their old life on earth is forgotten. So by His mighty power, the Lord Jesus Christ makes them remember the past. And then she recognized me. Till then, no. And then she said, “Brother, tell my husband to take my Bible. And on the last page, I have kept everything written on a piece of paper. Ask him to read it. It will console him and comfort him.” And then she went away.


And the Lord Jesus said, “Go and tell your friend.”


So that time I wrote a letter to him, “Brother, this is what I saw in heaven. Please check.”


And then when he wrote a letter to me, I shed my tears. He said, “Brother, what you said is 100% true. Because when I searched for my wife’s Bible and looked into it, there was a piece of paper in which she’s written some very, very intimate things, which is for me, and that has brought a lot of consolation and comfort to me. Thank you so much for writing this revelation.”


Well, the Lord is mindful of His people.


Do the souls who knew each other on earth, do they recognize each other in heaven or only when the Lord reveals them?


They don’t recognize each other. They don’t talk to each other because every soul is transfixed on the Lord. They have gone to heaven to see the Lord Jesus not another soul.


The throne of God in heaven is such a lovely and wonderful place, what has the four beasts to do with the throne of God?


I also didn’t understand that for a long time and you’ll be thrilled to know, only yesterday that is the 8th of July 2003 as I was standing before the throne of grace I was made to see these four beasts. Very pointedly the Holy Spirit said, “Look at those eyes and it is just to indicate that the Lord cares for you and He is watching over you, only to make you understand that, anyone to understand that important truth.”


Rev 4:6 … were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.


If you read Genesis 16:13, And she called the name of the LORD that spake unto her, Thou God seest me: for she said, Have I also here looked after him that seeth me?


If you read 2nd Chronicles 16:9 The Bible says For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew Himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward Him.


The same thing you find in Psalm 34:15, The eyes of the LORD are upon the righteous, and His ears are open unto their cry.


So when I looked at these four beasts, if you read the Bible, it says their appearance was like the appearance of a man. So, the Holy Spirit said, “These four beasts are nothing but reflections of God’s nature. That is why they are in and around the throne room of God.”


If you read Ezekiel 1:10, and Revelation 4:7, you’ll find the same thing described.


Eze 1:10 As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.


Rev 4:7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle


It says the first face was the face of the lion. The Holy Spirit said it shows the strength of God.


If you read Hosea 11:10, Amos 3:8, and Revelation 5:5, God is like a roaring lion. So He has all the power, the power, and strength and might of the Lord.


Hos 11:10 They shall walk after the LORD: He shall roar like a lion: when He shall roar, then the children shall tremble from the west.


Amo 3:8 The lion hath roared, who will not fear? the Lord GOD hath spoken, who can but prophesy?


Rev 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.


Then the flying eagle. The Holy Spirit explain to me He put a flying Eagle next. The flying Eagle means His caring nature. If you read Deuteronomy 32:11 how he carried the 2 million people exactly how mother eagle would carry eaglets on its wings, so the Almighty God carried these 2 million people.


Deu 32:11 As an eagle stirreth up her nest, fluttereth over her young, spreadeth abroad her wings, taketh them, beareth them on her wings.


Exodus 19:4 Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles’ wings, and brought you unto Myself.


So the caring nature is symbolized by the flying eagle, not just an eagle but the flying eagle.


Then the face of the ox. If you read the NIV version of the Bible in Ezekiel 1:10 and Revelation

4:6,7, it says ox. Ox represents an animal, a creature that bears your burden. You see the ox and they never complained, they just carry on.


The Lord Jesus said in Matthew 11:28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, I will give you rest. Put the burden on Me, I will take it. So that’s His nature as an ox to bear our burdens.


In Isaiah 53:4, He took our griefs and carried away our sorrows. And then the Bible says in Matthew 8:17, infirmities, or diseases, He gladly took upon Himself and then Galatians 3:13 all our curses is upon Me, put it upon Me, I will take it. So, in every way, He’s willing to take over our burdens. And John 1:29, the Lamb of God that carries away the sins of the whole world. So that’s the nature of God.


Isa 53:4 Surely He hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows.


Mat 8:17 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.


Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree.


John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.


Finally, the face of a man. So, the Holy Spirit pointed my attention to First Timothy 3:16. The secret, the mystery of godliness is that God was manifested in flesh. How He came, and Matthew 1:23 He would be named Emmanuel. That means God with us, God in flesh, God with us.


1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.


Matt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.


So, these are the four qualities of the Almighty God, which are reflected in the form of these beasts. So it is part and parcel of who God is. So it’s really an amazing expression of His character and nature. It’s amazing.


Have you seen anything of the Garden of Eden?


Well, once I saw the tree of life. That’s the only thing I remember. It was not a big tree. It is a short tree. Anybody can touch it. And then the most interesting thing about this tree is about the leaves and the fruits. The leaves are so greenish. The leaves are very thick and very dark green. But the fruit in the tree of life is so reddish in color. So the contrast with the green and red makes it so attractive and you’re so tempted to go and touch it and pluck it and eat it. I did try. But it’s an amazing thing. In heaven, everything is beyond your comprehension. Sometimes we always try to analyze the whole thing logically with our little brain and we don’t go anywhere. Something like an invisible plastic covering God has given to that tree. So it’s covered. So it’s so near to you. It’s so approachable and reachable, and you put your hand but you can’t touch it, something in between prevents you.


And I will stop there because the experiences I had at that time with that fruit is amazing, which may not go into the heads of many people. And there are no other words which can really explain what this fruit can do to you. It is not in the Bible. So I will not dare say that openly in a program like this.


But one thing comes to my mind, the experience of the great man of God, Smith Wigglesworth. He was longing for the Holy Spirit and tongues. So he went in search of that to a place to an Anglican Church where a dear sister was praying for the people. And he didn’t receive the mighty Holy Spirit. He was so discouraged. So finally he went to the godly preacher. She was a priest actually, and went and knelt before her and said, “Madam, lay your holy hands and pray for me for the last time. I am leaving.” So she laid hands and prayed, “Lord, fill him.”


And God chose that moment. And the Holy Spirit came and fell upon him. And he says, somebody rang the doorbell. She went away to answer the call. He said that’s the best thing that could ever happen to him. And he was drenched with the Holy Spirit. And God opened his eyes that he found himself before the tree of life and he was plucking the fruit on the tree of life and he was eating it. That’s how he felt that he was filled with the Holy Spirit. So, the fruit on the tree of life can give you life. A new life, new anointing, new power, which is beyond human thinking, or understanding.


But there is a tree of life in heaven, waiting for you and me.


Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.


Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.


After spending time with the Lord in heaven, how do you remember everything He has said to you when you come back to earth?


It’s a good question. In Heaven, you forget all about yourself. He goes on talking to you, instructing you, informing you about things that are going to happen. So many, many, many things happen. And then, finally, when He sends you back, then you begin to recollect because everything He has spoken is precious. You cannot ignore anything because it concerns you, your ministry, and the people who depend upon your prayers.


So, then I sit down, then pray again, “Holy Spirit, come back and help me to write down whatever the Lord said.” And He comes back and brings to my memory all the Lord has said and then I began to write, but it will take a long time, more than two hours to sit down, recollect the whole. It’s almost the same time I spend with the Lord


Are we nearing this great day of the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ?


The last time the Lord showed me was if I remember correctly, I saw the mighty angel of God standing with the golden trumpet. And anytime he may blow, and the drama of the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ would begin.


But this time, that is 8 July 2003 which was yesterday, when I was with the Lord. The Lord took me to the third heaven. And I saw the mighty angels of God and the mighty prophets of God. And it was such a wonderful time meeting them all again. And I met Elijah and Enoch. I remembered Zechariah 4 and Revelation 11 because these are the two witnesses, two mighty prophets who are


going to come back into this world because Elijah was raptured without seeing death, Enoch disappeared while walking with the Lord.


Zechariah 4:2-3 …’And said unto me, What seest thou? And I said, I have looked, and behold a candlestick all of gold, with a bowl upon the top of it, and his seven lamps thereon, and seven pipes to the seven lamps, which are upon the top thereof: And two olive trees by it, one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof.’


Revelation 11:3-4 …’And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.’


So I know both of them would be coming back as the mighty prophets. The first time I met them was in 1962. I saw both them questioning the Lord, “Lord, has the time come for us to go back to the world?”


Now we are 41 years later (2003). This is the second time I saw them very clearly. And they told me, “The second coming of our Lord Jesus Christ is nearer. And our coming also is nearer.”


So I felt in my spirit, that it’s time that we prepare more to receive the Lord Jesus Christ. So the end-time drama is going to unfold sooner than we think. This is the first time they said, “It’s nearer.”


That time in 1962 I clearly remember they were only asking the Lord, “As the time for us to go back come?”


But now, they told me in 2003, “It is nearer.” So within these 41 years, the time set for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ has come nearer and nearer.




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