Categories: Heaven




“You are that man!” How do you think I can do that? I have seen the Lord. His love is spreading through my heart. I have love and compassion. I had the compassion for the dying boy, for his mother, for his father but for the boy, I was not able to pray, “Lord, raise him up.”


Then He smiled, and He said, “You must read now 1st Corinthians 12: 8-10 where the nine gifts of the Holy Spirit are described. You must have these gifts.”


1 Cor 12:8- 10 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues.


So I said, “How can I have them?”


He said, “Pray!”


So for one full month, I prayed and prayed and prayed, “Lord, You gave me the Holy Spirit. I wanted to see You. You came and spoke to me. You are speaking to me. Now, give me the gifts of the Holy Spirit or I die.”


So every morning every night I began to trouble the Lord. I really troubled Him. I always pray, “Lord either give it or I die,” because I was so desperate for His power. I felt I would rather die than living the normal cut-and-dried Christian life, when you are just a Christian by name and not useful to others.


My main burning desire was to prove to the world that Jesus Christ is alive. Amen. That was my burning desire. I said, “Lord, I must prove to my countryman, there are millions of my countrymen that You are alive, then they will speak to You directly and get what they want. Once they know You are alive, they know what to do. They’ll pray directly to You. They’ll get all that they want.” That was my one, only one aim.


It was more for the benefit of others, the blessings of others and also to glorify the One who died on the cross. If I can prove that He is alive, I would have achieved my life goals.


And so I was really pestering Him night and day for one full month. One day I was ready to go to the office and got dressed up and I checked my watch. Oh my God, I have another 15 minutes more. Instead of going there, and chit chatting with my friends, let me pray. We were so poor as I said, my mother had an unused kitchen where she used to store the firewood and would always tell me, “Don’t go there,” quite often because there are scorpions and other insects over there.


So I knelt down and prayed, and the Holy Spirit came like a rushing mighty wind as a ball of fire and filled me to overflowing capacity. I forgot all about myself, and then heard a voice from heaven, “Come here,” and I literally saw a big hand coming for me, “Get up!”


I saw myself praying very sincerely, and saw myself outside the body standing by the side of my body. Looking back, I was conscious of my spirit standing there. And in the same position where


my body was, I was 100% conscious. I was standing and seeing my own body kneeling and praying there. I was amazed.


This is what in 2 Corinthians 12:1-4 Paul mentioned a man whether in the body or out of the body, he cannot tell.


2 Cor 12:1-4 It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such a one caught up to the third heaven. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.


Without my knowledge, I would rather say the mighty power of God took me, took my soul and put my soul in the hand of God. So the Bible speaks about the inward man and the outward man in 2 Corinthians 4:16.


2 Cor 4:16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perishes, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.


So I felt this is the inward man going up and the outward man praying there on the floor and I was conscious of both. And then as the hand lifted me Oh, I saw the cloud. What are these big, big mountains? What are these mountains? Oh my God, this is a tiny star. Oh they look like mighty, mighty, they look like mighty mountains, so big and let me be very honest it’s so difficult to pierce through them and go up. There were so many so-called mountains but the hand lifted me up traveling through the stars.


And then suddenly I came to a place so full of divine light. What looked like the big gate, I saw millions of souls coming, coming, coming from all directions of the world into the gate. I was standing outside the gate and the hand was taking me. I saw millions of angels going up and down and then the hand dropped me to a place where I saw the Lord Jesus Christ seated in the heavenly throne in all His majesty and the hand disappeared.


And then He asked me smiling, “What do you want?” So then I said, “Lord, I want the nine gifts of the Holy Spirit.” He didn’t speak but He was smiling and I heard someone like a big voice arguing on my behalf saying, “Lord, You have said again and again that the harvest is ripe but the laborers are few. Here is a young man who is willing to do anything for You. So why don’t You give him the nine gifts of the Holy Spirit and use him.”


Like that, one argument, one justification after the other, just telling the Lord why He should give me the gifts of the Holy Spirit.


The Lord Jesus smiled, and He said, “Let us go to the Father,” and He disappeared. Then came the same hand lifted me up and took me to a far place. This place, looked as if it is far away from heaven. So if you read Hebrews 7:26 and 1 Timothy 6:15 and 16, there’s a place in which the Almighty God the great Jehovah In an unapproachable light. I am talking about none other than the Almighty God Himself, the Father, God the Father.


Heb 7:26 For such a high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens.


1 Timothy 6:15-16 Which in His times He shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords. Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and power everlasting. Amen.


God has supernatural power. He can sit in one place, and He can appear in millions of places at the same time because the Bible says in Jeremiah chapter 23:23 and 24, He’s everywhere, everywhere you feel His mighty presence, and He says, No man can hide from Me.


Jeremiah 23:23-24 Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off? Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.


So again, the hand took me to this place and then I was really trembling in that presence; awfully silent, awfully silent and the silence kills you and then came roaring voice, the thunderous voice. He asked me, “What do you want?”


I said, “Lord, I need the gifts of the Holy Spirit, the nine gifts of the Holy Spirit.”


There was a pause. According to worldly standards, it may be for five minutes but it looked like one full day for me. Eternity waiting for the eternity.


Then He asked another question, “You want the nine gifts of the Holy Spirit or Myself?” and the voice that argued on my behalf to the Lord Jesus Christ told me to tell Him, Lord, I need Yourself. So trembling in my shoes, I said, “Lord, I need Yourself.”


When I said this, Oh, I could see that He was so happy. He was twisting His body and He was very happy nodding His head so jive with you because I could see Him. I was able to see Him twisting and moving, feeling so happy about my reply.


And then happened the most amazing thing. What appeared to be the bosom of this great person. appeared the face of the Lord Jesus Christ as you read in John 1:18 He came from the bosom of the Father. So it says, only He can reveal the Father.


John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, He hath declared Him.


I saw His face, only His face as if it were a picture taken by a moving camera and He’s smiling. When He smiled, oh that smile I can never forget in all my life. He smiles and from His face came millions and millions of rays, rays, rays after rays of different, different, different, different colors. We always talk about the beauty of the seven colors but this would be 7 million colors. The rays came and pierced me and I lost control of myself not knowing where I am.


And then I saw myself back in the world, back in the kitchen in the kneeling posture and I saw my whole body wet with sweat and perspiration. I checked my watch and it was almost one and a half hours away. I quickly changed my dress, went to my office and I could not work in the office. All the time that voice was coming again and again, “What do you want? What do you want?”


I could not work, so I excused myself, came home and just fell asleep like that. And that evening I had an uncle who was also working in the police department, he is a policeman and very, very loving person. He is my mother’s cousin brother. They wanted me to come and I normally go there and spend some time in prayer with them. That day I went and when we knelt down to pray, then


came a mighty surge of God’s supernatural, Holy Spirit. And they began to speak in different languages, and they began to give the meaning of whatever tongues they were speaking. I was speaking unknown tongues too and I was giving the meaning to them.


The meaning was coming from the tablet of my heart that made me understand. It is as if somebody is writing the meaning, somebody is making me understand the meaning. And the interpretation of the tongues went on saying about my uncle, my auntie and they were thrilled because whatever problems they were praying about, God spoke to them directly about them and then give them reply and He told them what’s going to happen to them in the future and so it was a glorious moment.


And I knew when the rays, the millions of rays in different, different colors came and hit me from the face of Christ, He bestowed His gifts upon me. Only tonight. Well, this was how the hand of God came and took me to heaven. And this is what I felt.


Now usually the Holy Spirit talks to you because He’s there 24 hours a day, 365 days in a year according to John 14:16-17 always comforting and encouraging you and cheering you up and to bring miracles for you and others too.


John 14:16-17 And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you forever;

Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth Him not, neither knoweth Him: but ye know Him; for He dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.


And when something special has to be spoken to you, then the Lord Jesus appears when you are in prayer. It may be your own room and there He comes as He came when He was resurrected as you see in John 20: 19 He entered the room of the disciples.


John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.


And the same day He would come walking in and He would talk to me for one hour, two hours or whatever He has to take to convey whatever He wants to convey. But then that used to be very, very, very special occasions when the Holy Spirit will take me to that place, that lonely place, that distant place where the Almighty God is.


Once my wife was very sick, and I didn’t know what to do. And she was not very much attracted towards medicine and taking pills and so on. So I didn’t know what to do. So I knelt down by her bedside and I began to pray and the Holy Spirit came. I was in the presence of the Almighty God. On that day He made me look up and I saw something like a great forest fire burning above that throne. Only that day I saw it and He asked me, “What do you want?” I told Him, “Lord, my wife is very sick. I want her to be made well.” He said, “Go back, she lives!”


And I opened my eyes, there she was missing because God healed her and she started working again.


Four years ago when my daughter, that’s my son Paul’s wife, I called her as my own daughter for the love I have for her because I lost my own daughter Evangeline, I have taken her in my heart as my own daughter. She was about to give birth to her third child and there was a complication and the doctors told me, “You better allow us to take up the child because the child’s pulse is going down. She’s not giving birth in the normal way.” And so my son ran to sign the papers, but had to go


through the cesarean operations and my wife telephoned me and said, “This is what’s happening. Please pray.”


I was all alone in the house and I prayed, and the Holy Spirit came. I saw the heavens open and I saw the same place of that throne. Oh, I really felt the triune God, God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, all the three in one and the fire that I saw on the top of that big throne, just came like a ball of fire. It proceeded from His throne, came down into the hospital and filled the room where she was. I have not seen that room physically but from where I was, I could see the room was filled with that heavenly fire and it was just like earthquake lava coming, sulfur, phosphorus and so on coming out of the erupting mountain, just filling them. In that big, what should I say, confusion, there appeared Jesus who told me, “The child is born.”


Oh I checked it was 10.20 am and even a few minutes later, my son called me, “Dad, we do not know what happened. Suddenly she gave birth to a child when they were about to operate upon her. Suddenly she gave birth to a child in a most normal way.” I asked him, “What was the time?” He said, “10.20.”


So on special occasions, He would take me there and if you read Daniel 7:9-13, you will see the same description given there. You will see the Almighty God, He’s called the Ancient of Days. Then in verse 13, you see it describes another person look like the Son of man and He was brought to the throne of the Ancient of Days. So there is a throne.


Dan 7:9-13 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of His head like the pure wool: His throne was like the fiery flame, and His wheels as burning fire. A fiery stream issued and came forth from before Him: thousand ministered unto Him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened. I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed and given to the burning flame. As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time. I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought Him near before Him.


And one day the Lord Jesus told me, “I want to show you My Father.”


So if you read Matthew 11:27, the Bible says that no one shall know who the Son is, except the Father. No one will also know who the Father is, except the person to whom the Son reveals.


The Son condescends to reveal the Father too. One day, as I was in the Spirit, He said, “Now, come and stand on the right side of the throne. I’ll be with you. For one moment I’ll make the surrounding glory to depart. One moment, and you can have your passing dreams of seeing My Father’s face.”


And He did it. He stood by my side, and for one passing moment or more than that, of course, He’s gracious. He said, “passing moment,” but it was not a fleeting second. I saw Him for several minutes and Oh, I saw His face. His face is eternally young. Just like what shall I say? Snow. His face was so full of youth, like the color of an apple. It is neither white nor red but you see life, you see eternal youth in that face. Normally, you always imagine, I have seen several pictures about God with a long beard reaching to the whole world, an old man. No. Oh, He’s an amazing personality, amazing personality. His face looks like frozen ice, at the same time you see life in that.


Later on, when He came to talk to me on the 22nd December 2001 about what is going to happen in 2002, I saw Him in His great glory, the full person seated on His throne. I can never forget. It was 2


am in the morning. I got up and I said, I’m not getting sleep. Let me say a word of prayer. And I was supposed to pray for someone in need and the Holy Spirit came and said, “No. Now you will hear from God.”


And I have never seen this marvelous personality. It was, what shall I say? It was a very, very holy experience for me. And He said, “I AM THAT I AM speaking to you. Now, take down whatever I have to tell you. I AM THAT I AM.”


So this is heaven. Now as you enter heaven, you see the gate and so on, it is just to make people comfortable as I have always said, the place where you are going to be featuring in heaven is purely according to the spiritual growth, the growth of maturity, the spiritual maturity that you attained in this world. If you are satisfied with just a little born-again experience, are obeying the law in water baptism, is filled with the Holy Spirit, speaking in tongues and so on, living a righteous life, being filled with God’s love, helping people, doing social service, God will never interfere. He is a gentleman. He will never interfere. He will let you live like that. There are people that experienced salvation in the last moment of their lives like the thief on the cross but there are some like Paul who says in Galatians 6:17 From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.


Paul is almost like the Lord Jesus Christ. Paul and the thief, both cannot live in the same place. The thief on the cross who accepted Christ at the last moment and knew Him as a dying person on the cross, he and Paul in Galatians 2:20 says, I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. What a difference! The thief cannot say that what Paul said; both cannot be clubbed together and put in the same room. It never works.


That is why according to the spiritual maturity that you get in this world, the place where you live in heaven is determined in your hands.


Now as we enter the first heaven, you see hills, lakes, rivers, waterfalls looks exactly like the world for the ground-level children of God. These ground-level children of God always say I am saved, I am saved, I am saved, nothing more than that. Oh, I have this thing from Christ, that thing from Christ, nothing more than that. I help the poor, I help the widow, nothing more than that. They’re very comfortable here, there is nothing to worry about. And they have everything there and they feel so comfortable in the first phase of heaven. Only there they’re comfortable.


If you send me tomorrow to the President’s palace and say, “Brother, you live here.” Do you think I’ll feel comfortable? Certainly not. I would rather come back and live in my modest house rather than live in the palace. It is just like that in heaven where the ground-level children are comfortable in the first phase of heaven but not in the second heaven reserved for the servants of God higher up in heaven.


And then you see the Lord Jesus Christ seated on His heavenly throne. In heaven, everything is made of gold everywhere we see gold and the throne of Christ. You will be able to see Jesus Christ on the throne from this first phase of heaven.


The most fascinating part, the intriguing part of the whole thing is heaven is just like probably 100 times bigger than the United States of America. It’s a vast continent by itself, so big because of billions of souls for the past 6000 years as history records. So Dr. Billy Graham used to say the Bible is the record of 6000 years of mankind. Very correct. So you see the heaven full of people especially the first phase and many people think that they will go there and do this and that. No, no. If you read Psalm 104: 34 the Psalms says, Lord, the very meditation of You is sweet, the very


meditation of Yours, then what about His very presence? In Psalm 43:4 he says, You are my exceeding joy.


Psa 104:34 My meditation of Him shall be sweet: I will be glad in the LORD.


Psa 43:4 Then will I go unto the altar of God, unto God my exceeding joy: yea, upon the harp will I praise Thee, O God my God.


So in heaven when the souls go to Heaven, they are received by the angels of God. Sometimes the angels of God are sent to your deathbed, the moment your soul comes out of your body. You wonder where you are now. The soul feels that he or she’s alive, they just don’t realize that they have left the body forever and just to make them comfortable, the angels of God come to accompany them to heaven.


Sometimes for people who have the lowest spiritual life in the world, who gave their hearts at the last moment and they’ll be comfortable only with the relatives and friends, the Lord in His great mercy will send the souls of the people related to them, and are very dear to them to receive them. That’s why if you stand by the deathbed of many people, you might hear them say, “Oh, my dad has come. He’s asking me to come.” Or they’ll say, “Oh, my daughter has come. She’s asking me to come.”


I read a book called “The Healing Stream” where a very big convict, a very cruel man was kept in prison. And one day a pastor came and gave him a Bible although this man is going to be hanged and die, he never had the mind to accept God’s word. He just threw it on the table and said, “Get away from me.” That night, he saw a vision. He saw a wonderful place full of light and he saw his dear mother standing there with outstretched hands, asking him to come. It is a true story. He ran towards his mother, then a big mountainous wall came up and blocked him. He was so angry that he hit his head against the wall. He looked at the wall and saw it was made of the sins committed by him, one after the other, one after the other, murder, gang fights, robbery, burglary like that and he didn’t know what to do. And there then he saw a lamb appearing above this wall and one drop of blood from the slain lamb fell on this wall and it disappeared. And the story goes, he woke up, “I must see my mom.” He wanted to go to heaven only to see his mom. His mom was his main attraction. And then he reconciled with God. He read the Bible and gave his heart to God. And when he was hanged, surely he would have gone to see his mom.


So God in His mercy sends the relatives and friends to such people to receive and take them to heaven.


And if you read Genesis 28, when Jacob saw the ladder, he saw the angels of God ascending and descending. So like that, some souls come up on that ladder. Sometimes, the angels of God come as you read in the story of Lazarus, the beggar, and the rich man, how Lazarus was dead and his soul was carried by the angels of God to the bosom of Abraham. So sometimes the angels come to take up the souls.


And sometimes when they go to heaven as it happened in 2 Kings 2:11-13, Elijah went in a chariot of fire. There lived a great man of God called Theophilus Subramaniam in Tambaram. I knew his relatives. This man was a very godly man. He was a priest and used to visit places. One day he went to the Madras Christian College, he had a very high fever. With that, he went and preached to the students and then came back. The fever raged higher and higher. Suddenly he said, “Oh, look at the beautiful chariot that has come from heaven standing at the doorstep. Do you see that?”


Everybody turned around but didn’t see anything. But when he said, “I’m going,” and then he was dead. So for some people He sent the chariot as He sent to Elijah and then sometimes when they go, the people are going to climb up the ladder and go, the angels of God really descend and take them and then they will be taken to the Lord Jesus.


There again, the Lord Jesus, He will love some people and He would appear to them from heaven. If you read the Acts of the Apostles 7:55-59, Stephen was stoned, he saw the heaven was opened and he saw the Almighty God and on the right side the Lord Jesus Christ standing to receive him. So for some people, the Lord Jesus Christ will receive them at the heavens open door.


Act 7:55-59 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man’s feet, whose name was Saul. And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.


So there are different ways and it’s always marvelous to see how the souls are received and the Lord Jesus when He meets the souls according to the maturity they got in the world, they will be longing to see Him and He would come and embrace them.


When my co-brother George died, I was in the regional hospital in Chennai. And I was convalescing over there after my 16-hour operation and without my knowledge, my co-brother also had a heart attack at the same time. He was also admitted to the same hospital. I never knew that he’s dead and gone but I saw the whole thing in action before me in my room. I saw him going up and up and he was bewildered when he was met by an angel of God and the angel told him, “Come George.” In England, there is King George IV and King George V. The angels are always full of joy and very happy and he said, “George, now you become George the eternal; there’s no fourth or fifth but it’s eternal. Now come, Christ is waiting to meet you.” And I saw him being taken to another place and the Lord was waiting for him. It looks like a room just like an earthly room. But of course it is made of gold and there, the Lord Jesus embraced him and said, “George, of all the things that you did, I like the Jesus Calls campaigns that you arranged because it was there I could meet thousands and thousands and thousands of people. Come George go to the place prepared for you.” And I saw my brother’s face full of glory, which is beyond understanding.


Now when the souls come to heaven they are made to pass through this sea of glass, those cool waters that souls were made to pass to Christ. As you enter this sea of glass, you forget all about the past. There your connection with the world is totally cut off. The sea of glass is in the first phase as you enter into heaven. It’s a really amazing thing as I said it’s such a vast area and the souls are coming, hundreds, to the Lord Jesus Christ. Though there is only one Lord Jesus Christ, He can be seen anywhere, receiving all these people and He would take them and the difference depends as I said, the walk that you have with Him and mostly it’s angels will take them and then as they pass to the sea of glass, these waters refresh them totally and all the thoughts about the past are erased. And then on is only Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. They will be lost in His presence, lost in His presence all the time.


And then again in His mercy to make the people very comfortable, exactly as this beggar Lazarus was taken to Abraham’s bosom to make him feel very comfortable. I’m in a comfortable place. Now, likewise, He would assemble all the relatives of this person, gather them, and then He would introduce them by His mighty power. He will make them think of the past, the relationship with this man or woman, and this woman, this man to recognize, “Oh, this is my dad.” And what a joy. What a glorious moment it will be. It’s amazing that the compassion of Christ is indescribable,


unspeakable and is beyond expression, so full of understanding and then once again, He erases the memories about the past and from then on, every person’s heart will be transfixed to Jesus. Nothing but Jesus. Because Jesus is their exceeding joy, only for that they are taken to heaven. There is no food, no drink, nothing.


And in heaven, you see flowers after flowers. But one thing about these flowers is every flower is white in color, no other color. I don’t know why this is so, but I have seen the length and breadth of heaven, all the flowers were white, white, white.


And just to make these people very comfortable, you see trees everywhere. And the funniest part of these trees, the trees also will be singing. Some musical something will come out of them.


And once I saw a man, his name is Tom Brown. And the Lord Jesus asked him, “Yes, Tom, what do you love to do here?” Then Tom Brown said, “Lord, all the days of my life I have been only blowing the trumpet. You know, I was a trumpet player, and most of my life has been playing only worldly music. Now I would love to sing for You. Allow me to play some music for You.”


It was so funny a request but the Lord Jesus said, “Alright.” You must know that this is not Tom Brown’s body; this is Tom Brown’s inward man. He is not in a physical body. He doesn’t have physical fingers but in a supernatural power, He gave him a trumpet which he can hold in the spirit body and play it. I was so happy to hear him.


One day as a comparison, I let you know I was walking with the Lord Jesus and I heard someone singing and praising God in a gruff voice, not at all in a pleasing voice and I looked at the Lord. The Lord could immediately understood my question. He said, “Come, I’ll show you.” And in another place I went, in this place that looks like a mosque with a big dome and then I looked in, I saw a man kneeling down and singing in praise of God with both his hands raised up. He looked as if he was in his kingly dress and the Lord Jesus said, “This is King David. All his life he was singing in praise of Me so when he came here, he said, “Lord, here also allow me to continue praising You now that You are personally before me.” Jesus granted his desire but his voice was very gruff and he felt very comfortable in such a mosque-like place. He has been doing it there. It is so wonderful and so marvelous, the Lord grants the desires of everyone.


See the Lord Jesus Christ enriched my knowledge so I can tell the world all about heaven. His supernatural power made Tom Brown think of his past and talk to me. Without Him, you cannot disturb anyone. He will stand by my side make them remember and Tom Brown said, “All the time I was playing in nightclubs, civic clubs, here and there and now I have given my heart to Christ when one week or one month later…,” I forgot now. This is the exact reason for which I’m recording my experiences, so that I may not forget everything. And he said, “Now I’m going to sing in praise of God. I’m going to play my musical instrument for the glory of God, but alas, I met with an accident, and I died. So when I came here, I asked the Lord, give me a trumpet. Let me play at least here for You. And God in His mercy has given me this trumpet playing and playing and playing like King David singing and singing and singing.”


Oh, it’s amazing, and, as I said, the most intriguing and incomprehensible fact is, every one of those billions of people in heaven feels that they are the nearest to the throne of Christ. How He does it, it’s beyond human imagination, human thinking. Every soul feels, “I am the next, the closest person to the throne of Christ. I am the closest person to Christ.”


The most important thing that I would love to bring at this point is if you will read Matthew 17:1-5 and again the same passage in Luke 9 especially verse 31, it was the Mount of Transfiguration and the Lord Jesus Christ was transfigured. Two people appeared by His side. Elijah was still in flesh


and blood and Moses’ spirit was there because if you read Deuteronomy 34:6-7 God buried him but nobody knows where he’s buried and there he is in the Spirit. But Peter looked at both of them and say, “This is Moses. This is Elijah.” So although Moses was in the spirit, he could be identified. So when a person leaves the physical body, the inward man carries the physical appearance that he had in the world. When you see that soul, when you see the inward man, when you see the spirit, you can say, “Oh, this is so-and-so, I know him.”


Mat 17:1-5 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into a high mountain apart, And was transfigured before them: and His face did shine as the sun, and His raiment was white as the light. And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elijah talking with Him. Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah. While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye Him.


Luk 9:31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of His decease which He should accomplish at Jerusalem.


Deu 34:6-7 And He buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulcher unto this day. And Moses was a hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.


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